Selenium – hangout

Blog: Selenium Hangout 5 Recap

Tue, 23 Dec 2014 00:00:00 +0000

01:35 – 9:45 W3C Update
Notes from most recent W3C Meeting
Highlights:
– changes to the get_attribute method call
– screenshots (changing to viewport only, eventually will support whole page)
– The WebDriver W3C working group has a GitHub repo now
– WebDriver will move from a “REST-ish” to a more “RESTful” interface

11:23 – 16:00 Selenium 3 Status Update

16:05 – 17:10 Marionette (FirefoxdDiver rewrite) testing help
Marionette Roadmap

17:20 – 19:27 ChemistryKit rewrite
Announcement blog post

17:28 – 20:24 Visual Testing Part 1
Getting Started with Visual Testing
Applitools (visual testing cloud solution built on top of WebDriver)

20:25 – 23:47 Selenium Guidebook in Java!
The Selenium Guidebook

23:52 – 29:51 Visual Testing Part 2
Web Consistency Testing
Why MogoTest won’t be open sourcing it’s code after shutting down
Michael Tamm’s GTAC talk on Fighting Layout Bugs
Getting Started with Visual Testing

Blog: Selenium Hangout 5 Recap

Mon, 19 May 2014 00:00:00 +0000

0:00 – 01:10 Intro

1:11 – 13:00 WebDriver W3C Spec & Selenium 3 Update

Progress on the spec, still a work in progress
No user facing changes to the Selenium API as a result
Trying to pair the spec and Selenium 3 together
If all goes well, the spec and Selenium 3 could drop during Selenium Conf (fingers crossed)

13:01 – 24:10 Selenium Conf 2014 Update

Check out the new and shiny conference site
Dates posted (e.g., call for talk submissions, early bird tickets going on sale, etc.)

24:11 – 39:00 Discussion about 5 Hidden Costs Of Selenium Whitepaper from Telerik

David Burns’ blog post rebuttal

Blog: Selenium Hangout 4 Recap

Fri, 07 Feb 2014 00:00:00 +0000

Here’s a recap from the latest Selenium Hangout panel discussion. To submit questions for future hangouts, you can message us on Twitter (@seleniumhangout) or e-mail us (questions@seleniumhangout.com).

Panel
David Burns (@AutomatedTester)
Kevin Menard (@nirvdrum)
Dave Haeffner (@TourDeDave)

Timeline

1:30-16:51: How to handle screenshots across different drivers
tl;dr driver specific issues due to a lacking standard and missing API

This is getting addressed in World Wide Web Consortium (W3C) spec which is under development
E-mail use-cases you would like to see in the spec to automatedtester@mozilla.com

17:30-22:40 : Internet Explorer (IE) 9 pitfalls and how to avoid them
tl;dr use 32-bit IE (if you’re not) and report issues to Selenium Issues

22:50-28:30 How do you do image and video comparison testing?
tl;dr straight image comparison is a flawed strategy, but there’s a better way — also, Selenium’s not the best tool for the job

Resources mentioned:

webconsistencytesting.com
Kevin Menard’s GTAC talk
Michael Tamm’s GTAC video
Image capture library from Mozilla (the library and a blog post about it)

28:58-38:15 How do you get started with Selenium?
tl;dr pick a language you feel comfortable with, choose an editor that makes you productive, and dig into the available resources

Recommended resources:

Selenium 2 Testing Tools (David Burns’ book)
The Selenium Guidebook (Dave Haeffner’s new book)
Free, weekly tip newsletter on how to use Selenium (also by Dave Haeffner)
Selenium HQ
Selenium Users Group
Selenium IRC chat channel (here’s a write-up on what it is and how to access it)

38:23-42:50 Selenium 3 Update
tl;dr still a work in progress, steadily moving forward, a big update will likely be required

43:15-44:00 Conference Update
tl;dr nothing finalized, hoping to do it internationally, but US is a fallback; still working on options (will know soon)

44:10-45:20 Mobile Changes to the Selenium project
tl;dr Android and iPhone Selenium drivers deprecated in favor of other compatible libraries

Compatible libraries:

45:20-47:30 New Mobile Selenium Drivers
tl;dr RIM (BlackBerry Smartphones) and Microsoft (Windows phones)

Blog: Selenium Hangout 3 Recap

Fri, 01 Nov 2013 00:00:00 +0000

Here is a recap of our most recent Selenium Hangout where we answered a grab bag of questions ranging from how to use Selenium within your existing workflow down to nitty-gritty details around performance and deprecated functions.

Be sure to tune into our Twitter feed to find out details about our next Hangout.

And if your question didn’t get answered, we encourage you to hop on IRC and ask it there. Not sure what that means or how to do it? Then read this.

Panel

David Burns (@AutomatedTester)

Dave Haeffner (@TourDeDave)

Jim Evans (@jimevansmusic)

Kevin Menard (@nirvdrum)

Timeline

00:00 – 05:50

Preamble and Introductions

05:51 – 18:09

Question 1 – For a team getting started with Selenium what are some typical workflows for how product code is built, and Selenium tests built, as well as for when product code is modified and Selenium test modified?

18:10 – 34:15

Question 2 – Recommendations for testing responsive design?

34:15 – 37:44

Question 3 – Was VerifyText removed?

37:45 – 46:20

Question 4 – Why is IE9 slow and hard to use and recommendations for alleviate this?

46:21 – 50:11

Question 5 – ChromeDriver2 seems less robust than it’s predecessor, thoughts on this?

50:12 – 53:39

Question 6 – The Selenium documentation is out of date, how can I contribute a fix for this?

53:40 – 54:31

How to help out with the Selenium Conference?

Links mentioned

Figuring Out What To Test

How to get involved with the Selenium Conference

Where to contribute to Selenium Documentation

Blog: Selenium Hangout 2 Recap

Wed, 09 Oct 2013 00:00:00 +0000

This is a recap from the most recent Selenium Hangout (a.k.a. The World’s Best Selenium Meetup). For info on future meetups, follow them on Twitter.

Thanks to all who attended and tuned into the last Selenium Hangout where we talked about Selenium 3! Below is a write-up of the meetup, the video, and relevant links we mentioned. And to access all meetup videos you can go here.

Panel

David Burns (@AutomatedTester)
Dave Haeffner (@TourDeDave)
Kevin Menard (@nirvdrum)
Simon Stewart (@shs96c)

Video

Minutes

00:00 – 05:04

Goal and items for today’s conversation
Feedback review from last meetup
Intros

05:05 – 07:34

API changes
Packaging
Gradual approach to phasing out Selenium RC
Support for Selenium IDE HTML Suite running

07:35 – 09:55

Selenium Builder, how it will replace Selenium IDE, and when

09:56 – 11:30

Firefox Driver 2 release (a.k.a. “M day”)

11:31 – 12:00

Tasks required to complete WebDriver W3C standard

12:01 – 14:30

Upgrade concerns for enterprise users of Selenium
Recommended watching: Jason Leyba’s talk at SeConf about upgrading Selenium at Google
Reasons why companies should make the jump

14:31 – 14:55

Why we need browser vendors to help
Why the W3C standard makes sense

14:56 – 21:40

Lessons learned and challenges found when a large scale practitioner upgraded from RC to WebDriver
Things they would like to see cleaned in Selenium 3
A nod in support of Selenium RC as a separate download
Simon attempts a joke

21:41 – 25:15

Other changes in Selenium 3
– all or nothing upgrade
– exception handling (changing from status codes to status strings)
– how commands are getting sent across the wire
– philosophy behind approach to Selenium RC approach

25:16 – 27:29

Mobile support in Selenium 3

27:30 – 37:05

Firefox Driver and Firefox OS
Recommended watching: Jonathan Griffin & David Burns’ talk at SeConf on Firefox Driver/Marionette
Creating a common set of Desired Capabilities
Recommended watching: David Burns’ talk at SeConf on adding mobile gestures to WebDriver

37:06 – 38:20

Documentation

38:21 – 49:40

Brief history of Selenium project
Recommendation for RC users to look at the stable and brilliant new and shiny
Plan for Selenium RC in depth and rough timeline
Another recommendation to watch Jason Leyba’s talk at SeConf about upgrading Selenium at Google

49:41 – 50:45

Encouragement for folks to hop on Selenium IRC chat channel (especially if your question wasn’t asked/answered)
Recommended reading: Elemental Selenium’s write-up on what IRC is, how to use it, and how to connect to the Selenium IRC chat channel

50:46 – 51:45

Where to submit feedback and request topics for future meetups